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Wednesday, September 07, 2011

Royal Newfoundland Constabutory (II)

According to figures released on Tuesday, the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary Assocation helpfully donated another $2000 to the Progressive Conservative Party in 2010.

Together with the $2000 which they helpfully donated in 2009, this makes a combined historical total of reportable contributes from the RNCA to the PC Party to $16,450 since 1999.

Over the same period, the RNCA has contributed a combined $700 in two separate contributions to the provincial Liberal Party or a Liberal candidate.

Three by-election financial reports, including that of the 2010 Topsail by-election, have yet to be published to the Elections NL website.

10 Comments:

At 4:34 PM, September 07, 2011 , Blogger Wm. Murphy said...

At least you never spent an incredible amount of time adding up PC contributions from design and engineering firms!!

Between you and Ed one gets the impression that this is the first time a governing Party received the lion's share of political donations!!! When you have the time why don't you trot back to the world of Tobin and compare the amounts between the Libs and Tory's. Same story different year!

yawn!!!

 
At 4:43 PM, September 07, 2011 , Blogger WJM said...

At least you never spent an incredible amount of time adding up PC contributions from design and engineering firms!!

First of all, that doesn't take much time; second of all, so what; and third of all, why do you care how anyone else spends their time?

Between you and Ed one gets the impression that this is the first time a governing Party received the lion's share of political donations!!!

If One gets that impression, One has a real bad reading comprehension problem.

When you have the time why don't you trot back to the world of Tobin and compare the amounts between the Libs and Tory's.

Like here?

Or here?

You're welcome.

 
At 7:01 PM, September 07, 2011 , Blogger Wm. Murphy said...

Wow...I guess you showed me!!!

It's funny how a few colourful graphs will do that


So you are saying that people should be suprised that the governing political Party who is considered to be a slam dunk winner in the next election....will receive more in political donations then a Party that barely registers on the political map..... okee dokee then.

 
At 7:09 PM, September 07, 2011 , Blogger WJM said...

So you are saying that people should be suprised that the governing political Party who is considered to be a slam dunk winner in the next election....will receive more in political donations then a Party that barely registers on the political map..... okee dokee then.

Nope, not saying that. Try again if you'd like. Somewhere else, ideally.

 
At 11:33 PM, September 07, 2011 , Blogger Wm. Murphy said...

Back again....hope you don't mind?

I get it and completely agree with your comment that the political donation system is a complete joke...I get it!

But I am wondering what your point is...or more aptly ;what is your issue? Are you upset with the RNCA? Are you sookie that the Liberal Party never received the same amount?...or; are you bringing this up because you are hoping that people will somehow think different about this government?

 
At 11:54 PM, September 07, 2011 , Blogger WJM said...

It is at least a breach of the spirit, if not the letter, of the RNC regulations for the RNCA to be involved in partisan financing.

The only way they should be giving equally to the parties is by giving nothing to any of them.

It is wrong for the RNC, individually or collectively, to be engaged in partisan electoral politics.

Just. Plain. Wrong.

 
At 8:42 AM, September 08, 2011 , Blogger Wm. Murphy said...

It is wrong for the RNC, individually or collectively, to be engaged in partisan electoral politics.

It was also "wrong" for MHA's to spend their constituency allowance on wine and artwork!!! The "moral" compass of some appears to different than others.

My issue is that you leave the impression (rightly or wrongly) that this is somehow tied to the Conservatives...which I am sure is okay with you that you may have left that impression.

As you said, this is not about the political Party (Conservative) but about an inadequate system for corporations to donate to the political system. How you frame it up is nothing more than a cute and backhanded reference that this is somehow linked to the PC's and not the system

Do you think your partisan bent clouded your editorial comments on this topic?

 
At 11:38 AM, September 08, 2011 , Blogger WJM said...

It was also "wrong" for MHA's to spend their constituency allowance on wine and artwork!!!

Or on a "charity" named after yourself.

My issue is that you leave the impression (rightly or wrongly) that this is somehow tied to the Conservatives...

Ummm... who are the RNC, exclusively for the past decade, expressing financial support for?

Hint: Not the Marijuana Party.

As you said, this is not about the political Party (Conservative) but about an inadequate system for corporations to donate to the political system.

Actually, the two issues are independent of one another.

How you frame it up is nothing more than a cute and backhanded reference that this is somehow linked to the PC's and not the system

Yeah, I can see how it's totally unfair to link thousands of dollars in inappropriate donations to the PCs to the, um, PCs.

Do you think your partisan bent clouded your editorial comments on this topic?

Do you think you're a moron? Because I do.

Bye, Murph.

 
At 4:36 PM, September 08, 2011 , Blogger Wm. Murphy said...

When people resort to name calling I always get the sense that I must be on to something. Why the hurtful words Wally? I thought it was a simple question....appears not!

 
At 4:19 PM, September 09, 2011 , Blogger LGH said...

Exhanges with WmMurphy put me in mind of the following Monty Python skit:

Receptionist
(Rita Davies) Yes, sir?
Man I'd like to have an argument please.
Receptionist Certainly, sir. Have you been here before...?
Man No, this is my first time.
Receptionist I see. Do you want to have the full argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?
Man Well, what would be the cost?
Receptionist Yes, it's one pound for a five-minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.
Man Well, I think it's probably best if I start with the one and see how it goes from there. OK?
Receptionist Fine. I'll see who's free at the moment ... Mr. Du-Bakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory ... yes, try Mr. Barnard - Room 12.
Man Thank you.
The man walks down a corridor. He opens door 12. There is a man at a desk.
Mr Barnard (shouting) What do you want?
Man Well I was told outside ...
Mr Barnard Don't give me that you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
Man What!
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Man Look! I came here for an argument.
Mr Barnard (calmly) Oh! I'm sorry, this is abuse.
Man Oh I see, that explains it.
Mr Barnard No, you want room 12A next door.
Man I see - sorry. (exits)
Mr Barnard Not at all. (as he goes) Stupid git.
Outside 12A. The man knocks on the door.
Mr Vibrating (from within) Come in.
The man enters the room. Mr Vibrating is sitting at a desk.
Man Is this the right room for an argument?
Mr Vibrating I've told you once.
Man No you haven't.
Mr Vibrating Yes I have.
Man When?
Mr Vibrating Just now!
Man No you didn't.
Mr Vibrating Yes I did!
Man Didn't.
Mr Vibrating Did.
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Mr Vibrating I'm telling you I did!
Man You did not!
Mr Vibrating I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?
Man Oh ... Just a five-minute one.
Mr Vibrating Fine (makes a note of it; the man sists down) thank you. Anyway, I did.
Man You most certainly did not.
Mr Vibrating Now, let's get one thing quite clear. I most definitely told you!
Man You did not.
Mr Vibrating Yes I did.
Man Didn't.
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Man Didn't.
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Mr Vibrating Yes it is.
Man No it isn't, it's just contradiction.
Mr Vibrating No it isn't.
Man Yes it is.
Mr Vibrating It is not.
Man It is. You just contradicted me.
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Man Ooh, you did!
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Man You did, just then.
Mr Vibrating No, nonsense!
Man Oh, look this is futile.
Mr Vibrating No it isn't.
Man I came here for a good argument.
Mr Vibrating No you didn't, you came here for an argument.
Man Well, an argument's not the same as contradiction.
Mr Vibrating It can be.
Man No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements to establish a definite proposition.
Mr Vibrating No it isn't.
Man Yes it is. It isn't just contradiction.
Mr Vibrating Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
Man But it isn't just saying 'No it isn't'.
Mr Vibrating Yes it is.
Man No it isn't, Argument is an intellectual process ... contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.
Mr Vibrating No it isn't.
Man Yes it is.
Mr Vibrating Not at all.
Man Now look!
Mr Vibrating (pressing the bell on his desk) That's it. Good morning.
Man But I was just getting interested.
Mr Vibrating Sorry the five minutes is up.

 

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